Comments on: git the fsck out http://blog.aisleten.com/2008/11/23/git-the-fsck-out/ Late nights eventually pay off Wed, 08 Feb 2012 19:15:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Programming » Blog Archive » Why Perforce is more scalable than Git http://blog.aisleten.com/2008/11/23/git-the-fsck-out/#comment-3649 Programming » Blog Archive » Why Perforce is more scalable than Git Wed, 27 Apr 2011 01:31:46 +0000 http://blog.aisleten.com/?p=260#comment-3649 [...] Ask yourself this: Is it really that important to duplicate the entire history on every single PC? Do you really need to peruse changelist 1 of KDE from an airplane? In most cases, NO. What you really want is the other stuff: easy branching, clean, and stash, and the ability to transfer changes to another client. The distributed stuff isn’t really asked for, or needed. It just makes it hard to learn. [...] [...] Ask yourself this: Is it really that important to duplicate the entire history on every single PC? Do you really need to peruse changelist 1 of KDE from an airplane? In most cases, NO. What you really want is the other stuff: easy branching, clean, and stash, and the ability to transfer changes to another client. The distributed stuff isn’t really asked for, or needed. It just makes it hard to learn. [...]

]]> By: Why Perforce is more scalable than Git | Programming http://blog.aisleten.com/2008/11/23/git-the-fsck-out/#comment-3643 Why Perforce is more scalable than Git | Programming Sat, 23 Apr 2011 22:22:51 +0000 http://blog.aisleten.com/?p=260#comment-3643 [...] Ask yourself this: Is it really that important to duplicate the entire history on every single PC? Do you really need to peruse changelist 1 of KDE from an airplane? In most cases, NO. What you really want is the other stuff: easy branching, clean, and stash, and the ability to transfer changes to another client. The distributed stuff isn’t really asked for, or needed. It just makes it hard to learn. [...] [...] Ask yourself this: Is it really that important to duplicate the entire history on every single PC? Do you really need to peruse changelist 1 of KDE from an airplane? In most cases, NO. What you really want is the other stuff: easy branching, clean, and stash, and the ability to transfer changes to another client. The distributed stuff isn’t really asked for, or needed. It just makes it hard to learn. [...]

]]> By: AT http://blog.aisleten.com/2008/11/23/git-the-fsck-out/#comment-3630 AT Tue, 08 Mar 2011 07:55:21 +0000 http://blog.aisleten.com/?p=260#comment-3630 The first time I used git, I had a similar experience to you....I accidentally wiped away two days worth of data (technically it was Google's repo command that did it, but that didn't make me feel better). But it wasn't long before I really liked it. The first time I used git, I had a similar experience to you….I accidentally wiped away two days worth of data (technically it was Google’s repo command that did it, but that didn’t make me feel better). But it wasn’t long before I really liked it.

]]> By: AT http://blog.aisleten.com/2008/11/23/git-the-fsck-out/#comment-3629 AT Tue, 08 Mar 2011 07:54:14 +0000 http://blog.aisleten.com/?p=260#comment-3629 It's pretty amazing how, once you finally figure git out, it seems so much better than what you've been using before. It’s pretty amazing how, once you finally figure git out, it seems so much better than what you’ve been using before.

]]> By: Me http://blog.aisleten.com/2008/11/23/git-the-fsck-out/#comment-2951 Me Sat, 22 Aug 2009 14:29:02 +0000 http://blog.aisleten.com/?p=260#comment-2951 As noted by Dawkings, the majority of the world is clearly a victim of the God delusion. The rest seems to be victims of the Linus delusion. GIT is optimized according to Linus' way of thinking about managing the patch flow in the Linux kernel project. For almost all other projects (those not managed by Linus), GIT is just wrong. For the rest of us, there's a much better option. That option is Mercurial. As noted by Dawkings, the majority of the world is clearly a victim of the God delusion. The rest seems to be victims of the Linus delusion.

GIT is optimized according to Linus’ way of thinking about managing the patch flow in the Linux kernel project. For almost all other projects (those not managed by Linus), GIT is just wrong.

For the rest of us, there’s a much better option.

That option is Mercurial.

]]> By: Midnight Oil » Blog Archive » Tweet Less, Blog More http://blog.aisleten.com/2008/11/23/git-the-fsck-out/#comment-2789 Midnight Oil » Blog Archive » Tweet Less, Blog More Wed, 10 Jun 2009 14:18:25 +0000 http://blog.aisleten.com/?p=260#comment-2789 [...] zero comments, but I know they’re read by my close friends. However, I’ve had several blog posts that have generated a great deal of commentary. I provided some thoughtful analysis, and [...] [...] zero comments, but I know they’re read by my close friends. However, I’ve had several blog posts that have generated a great deal of commentary. I provided some thoughtful analysis, and [...]

]]> By: Colas Nahaboo http://blog.aisleten.com/2008/11/23/git-the-fsck-out/#comment-2626 Colas Nahaboo Sun, 15 Mar 2009 07:04:11 +0000 http://blog.aisleten.com/?p=260#comment-2626 I will just chime in and as other, suggest you try hg / mercurial. It is designed to be used by human beings, whie having the power and performance of git. Git is designed to be a toolkit to build systems on. My advice to people is that it is OK to use Git if you have a Git guru in your team (or plan to become one). If you just want to use a SCM, just go mercurial. I will just chime in and as other, suggest you try hg / mercurial. It is designed to be used by human beings, whie having the power and performance of git. Git is designed to be a toolkit to build systems on. My advice to people is that it is OK to use Git if you have a Git guru in your team (or plan to become one). If you just want to use a SCM, just go mercurial.

]]> By: Jon Senior http://blog.aisleten.com/2008/11/23/git-the-fsck-out/#comment-2597 Jon Senior Fri, 06 Feb 2009 20:04:00 +0000 http://blog.aisleten.com/?p=260#comment-2597 I stumbled across this while in frustration, I googled for "Why I hate git". I'm a relatively able coder. I use a wide variety of languages and run a continuous campaign to get my colleagues using some form of revision control system. This requires that said RCS can be dropped neatly into their normal workflow. SVN manages this. It may not be L33T, but RapidSVN provides a perfectly adequate GUI. Now it's cool that git has fancy features. I'm sure it makes life a lot easier for many folks, but I've just spent the last hour and a half trying to checkout (in the svn sense) a copy of a driver for x.org so that I can test a new feature that was recently added. Why? Well, because "checkout" has a completely different function to other RCSs. Because searching for documentation provides countless examples of how to carry out complex tasks, but not how to simple download some source code. Because once I'd manage to figure out that I had to clone the repository, and hacking around with branches finally had me using the correct branch, the code that I could see didn't include the changes in the branch that I'd specified. So off I go again, from the top, downloading another 28M of data (around 4M of which appears to be source code) in order to compile it. This is not useable... it's not even close to useable... it's possibly the largest disaster in terms of usability that I've ever seen (And I've coded in VBA!). So while the reasons for hating git that you gave above might have been mis-targeted, don't think that you should cease hating git... there are plenty of other reasons left. :-) I stumbled across this while in frustration, I googled for “Why I hate git”. I’m a relatively able coder. I use a wide variety of languages and run a continuous campaign to get my colleagues using some form of revision control system. This requires that said RCS can be dropped neatly into their normal workflow. SVN manages this. It may not be L33T, but RapidSVN provides a perfectly adequate GUI.

Now it’s cool that git has fancy features. I’m sure it makes life a lot easier for many folks, but I’ve just spent the last hour and a half trying to checkout (in the svn sense) a copy of a driver for x.org so that I can test a new feature that was recently added. Why? Well, because “checkout” has a completely different function to other RCSs. Because searching for documentation provides countless examples of how to carry out complex tasks, but not how to simple download some source code. Because once I’d manage to figure out that I had to clone the repository, and hacking around with branches finally had me using the correct branch, the code that I could see didn’t include the changes in the branch that I’d specified.

So off I go again, from the top, downloading another 28M of data (around 4M of which appears to be source code) in order to compile it.

This is not useable… it’s not even close to useable… it’s possibly the largest disaster in terms of usability that I’ve ever seen (And I’ve coded in VBA!).

So while the reasons for hating git that you gave above might have been mis-targeted, don’t think that you should cease hating git… there are plenty of other reasons left. :-)

]]> By: Mike Riley http://blog.aisleten.com/2008/11/23/git-the-fsck-out/#comment-2576 Mike Riley Sun, 18 Jan 2009 10:02:21 +0000 http://blog.aisleten.com/?p=260#comment-2576 Honestly I have to agree with you but not for any of these reasons, I mostly just stick with SVN because that's what everybody uses... There are countless IDEs that have SVN integrated, countless cross platform SVN clients. And to be honest, as a fairly small scale web developer, who cares about what features your version control software has? SVN works and does what it needs to, it's highly stable and has a mature community surrounding it. I have no doubt that git is superior software, but at this point it just isn't that mature. Honestly I have to agree with you but not for any of these reasons, I mostly just stick with SVN because that’s what everybody uses… There are countless IDEs that have SVN integrated, countless cross platform SVN clients. And to be honest, as a fairly small scale web developer, who cares about what features your version control software has? SVN works and does what it needs to, it’s highly stable and has a mature community surrounding it. I have no doubt that git is superior software, but at this point it just isn’t that mature.

]]> By: Midnight Oil » Blog Archive » My New Year’s Resolution: Don’t be a douche http://blog.aisleten.com/2008/11/23/git-the-fsck-out/#comment-2559 Midnight Oil » Blog Archive » My New Year’s Resolution: Don’t be a douche Fri, 02 Jan 2009 14:38:10 +0000 http://blog.aisleten.com/?p=260#comment-2559 [...] back through some old posts, I see that I’ve become prematurely curmudgeonly. I also tend to judge too quickly, and am then forced to recant and eat crow. Since I’m not a [...] [...] back through some old posts, I see that I’ve become prematurely curmudgeonly. I also tend to judge too quickly, and am then forced to recant and eat crow. Since I’m not a [...]

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